As a black woman who have been leaving here for years
I had nothing to do with the RIOTS OR LOOTINGS
I don't see why people like me should be ashamed or be attacked over what had happened.
I have noticed that the BNP AND Others also monitor websites like this
so that they can comment and put black people down
I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HAS HAPPENED
Don't blame me or any of my family we are victims in this whole mess
A criminal enquiry should be lunched and as someone else have mentioned
I am convinced that all this was a setup
To ruin the already battered image of black people
I don't are about MARK DUGGAN
he did nothing to enhanced my life
why should I have to know listen to people talk about him
Why do people always involve all other black people for their own selfish ends
I am sick of hearing that its my fault just because I was born BLACK
Please don't blame me!

If you look at the news you will see that most of the rioters are young black men and women who have taken the riots as an opportunity to steal and rob because they feel that everyone and the system is against them because of the colour of there skin! Stop going on about that as an excuse being black in Britain today is better then being white you have so many laws in place now pushing the black man and woman forward in jobs and housing! And white people should take to the streets to protect there community from black mobs who terrorise the streets of London robbing and mugging innocent people it's in there blood that's all they no what to do. no surrender!

Hitler orchestrated civil unrest deliberately to try and control and influence people and discredit the existing authority before he himself took power - perhaps some people in the world want to discredit existing governments and have people mistrust each other so whoever/Whatever they might be will gain greater influence over a damaged, mistrustful community that no longer has any faith in existing hierarchies. I may be a conspiracy theorist,but this may have happen before in history. if you care to research these things. The internet and social networking sights would have been a dream come true for many people in history who would have loved to very cleverly and discreetly bend a course of social behaviour. Without anyone necessarily being aware they were being at all influenced. Influencing crowds is also thought to be relatively easy if one knows what one is doing -I refer to the 1980's television series written by Alan Bleasdale who researched his political subject matter.

the point some of you clearly seem to be missing no one cares if it was all white defending there community or all black or asian etc.. as long as it was peacful done, but the EDL is not a organization that welcomes everyone it is a racist organization that was trying to take over the streets of eltham and make it a go no area for anyone that was not white or even white people who disagree with there sick aggressive racist views.

do you think the EDL trying to attack 2 lone black kids on the bus in eltham is normal right and defending you from rioters no this was them wanting to attack innocents because of there race.
You can see there behaviour in eltham on you tube for your self.
In fact you can see there behaviour on you tube in all they do and see what they do so.
if you think the this was people defending eltham then all i can say is you must be in favour of the EDL and who in there right mind would defend them or want them on your streets just as we would not rioters.
The EDL only purpose is racial hatred.,

There are riots in the streets, buildings on fire, people are dead, and you are worried about somebody allegedly saying a naughty word?

Liberals say any white person who stands up for their people is evil. When Ghandi stands up for Indian people he is called a hero, When Mandela stands up for black people he is called a hero, but when anyone stands up for white people they are called a "racist". Anti-racist is just a codeword for anti-white.

Look up in historical records.

White people have been rioters quite often.

Nothing exclusively ethnic ... come on !

Riots have been organized by angry farmers, there has been anti-tax riots; pogroms launched by poor angry white men against Jews or Blacks; looting has been a war method (Napoleon and many other historical "heroes"), workers have been rioting now and then, and white students too : remember?

The hidden aim of the overclass has always been to do their best to stimulate hatred amongst poor people and within the underclass.

I am a thirty something black male, always held down a job, own my own flat, drive a decent car, brought up to be respectful to whoever i meet, but now this is a problem to those that instantly judge me.
Im in deep fear that the likes of the EDL and the BNP will seriously capatalise on this and turn their torrent of hate towards those who are of African descent, i dont like confrontation, i prefer to walk away , but have been alarmed by the rash of anti-black groups and online petitions calling for the goverment to consider the deportations of all non-white people in England,to consider segregation and to bring back the slave trade-whats even disgusting is that the media are not doing a thing to shut them down or highlight the dangers of them.
I could walk with my head held high as i was brought up to but now im not so sure, every race has pride and shame in their race but the black race is laden with shame-Slavery, colonialisation, segregation, lynchings, riots, bigotry and predjudice-its not going to get better , thanks to the selfish youth it will get worse and i fear that it will trigger a string of fresh racial attacks.
I feel so ashamed by all this i really do

Take another look at some of these rioters, the trading estates getting looted in the outer boroughs are almost white kids. Do you think Eltham or any other white people defending their community is going to give them a pass because their white? I don't think so.

Stand by in solidarity and see your neighbourhood get torched by a bunch of snotty nosed yobs but any black man in Eltham, Southall or Stoke Newington with the balls to protect his family and neighbourhood will recive nothing but back up from whites, Turks, Sikhs and others.

Leftist: A person who wants to spoil one White country and then expects another White country to take them in because they are White. News flash to Leftists destroying White countries: You are in all of them and have to be stopped in all of them. That means sending the non-Whites back.

I've read the article. I've read the comments. I depair. Between somewhite racism and black 'poor-us' there's some sense to be had, but not on this page.

"Boris Johnson (who has already called black people picannies, watermelon smilers and nappy heads)"

This is a misrepresentation. Johnson was actually satirising the condescending colonial attitudes of previous generations. By taking his words out of their context you give them the opposite meaning to what he actually intended.

Just for the record, I live in Eltham and that station on the left at the begining of that video don't look like Eltham or New eltham stations.

This is a joke, Eltham is not doing this because they are racist as you all like to make out it to be! they are there to protect there community as they dont like to live in a shit hole! Just because eltham residents are mostley white, (which is very rare to find in a comunitty these days) it does not mean we are against any race it means we are not a multi-cultured area! Thats not anyones thought!!!!! So please stop accussing Eltham of being racist because you will most prob see another war going down, where other races will start a riot over "Eltham being racist".

I looked up that comment about Boris Johnson making racist comments and while I don't like him, it seems to have been taken out of context. The article was a satire, and the use of racist language was an attack on Tony Blair.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3571742/If-Blairs-so-go...

As for these comments about a race war, laughable. The rioters have been from all nationalities, and the wide number of videos available online show this.

Growing up in East London was bad, it was 1970's I was 5yrs old and remember it like yesterday. The abuse my family took was un-believable, how my parent tolerated it I don't know.Then an event changed my life for ever,I was 8yrs old playing football in the local park, one of my friends(most of them white) kicked the ball over a fence and it hit a black cab, I went to retrieve it only to find the cab driver standing with the ball in his hand. I apology and ask for the ball back, no damage to the cab, he face was filled with rage, he was a grown man.I recognised him, as the same cab driver who had taken me and my mum home from shopping only a couple of days previous,as he had a giant ginger bead and glasses, and had been so kind in helping my mum with her shopping. He looked down at me and spat full in my face, a big dirty greenie and kick the ball down the road. He told me listen you fcking wog next time I'll kill you. I ran all the way home crying. After that I realised how much White people really hated black people, and make a decision that I would never trust another white person as long as I lived. That was 38 yrs ago

I am now 46, and have seen many what I though were progression and positive movement for black people in this country, but after the recent riots, it as if we are back to 1970's.WHY because look how the white population are quick to blame all the sad events solely on the black people alone , their own white rioters are completely invisible.They have shown their true colours. Maybe it would of been better had the Germans won W.W.2, then at least my parent would of still be in the West Indies.

As a race,I feel we will never truly be accepted in this country. We have always been kept in our place one or two are allowed to sucess where it suits, normally in Sports, but as for life in general most of us will never get to the promised land. This counrty still operates on a class system, those at the top stay there, the white lower classes are kept where they are, and then brain washed by the upper clasess into thinking it's the fault of immigrants and their children for their plite. More fool us for accepting this almost 2 generations.

I now live in a semi rural area, and over the last few days with events happening I am scorned upon like scum, even the next door neighbour is avoiding me, and to be honest waiting for the words of abuse to start, feel like staying indoors until all this blows over. But like my parents before, I shall take courage from their early struggle to face these 2 faced people and carry on as best with my family life. We are a strong race, lets take strength from our parents generation and care for our own children. Show them love, teach them respect and how to respect themselves, tell them to be positive, let them to have ambition, and tell them they can success. Above all tell them there a big wide world out there filled with Opportunities.

this didn't become racist until somebody pointed out the fact that most of the people looting and being scum were the black people, my girlfriend is mixed race and so is my best mate. They both agree that most of the black youth have absolutely no clue about right and wrong, mainly due to black men getting their "baby mama's" pregant then having nothing to do with the upbringing of the baby. This is all true.

Comments like that from Anonymous Wed, 2011-08-10 16:27 just go to show where some of the problems arise. Black people are not all angels. Most are ok..just like white and Asian people. But black people with your attitude really should take a long hard look in the mirror.
Darcus Howe was asked a reasonable question and started to get stroppy.
Today's white people are not responsible for past actions that are seen, by today's values, as horrendous. Do you really think all white people lived a life of luxury on the back of slavery and colonisation? 95% were treated like shit..and most still are. I could go one but can't be bothered to educate you further

Comments like that from Anonymous Wed, 2011-08-10 16:27 just go to show where some of the problems arise. Black people are not all angels. Most are ok..just like white and Asian people. But black people with your attitude really should take a long hard look in the mirror.
Darcus Howe was asked a reasonable question and started to get stroppy.
Today's white people are not responsible for past actions that are seen, by today's values, as horrendous. Do you really think all white people lived a life of luxury on the back of slavery and colonisation? 95% were treated like shit..and most still are. I could go one but can't be bothered to educate you further

This is a load of rubbish you may have had a few silly little girls trying to cause trouble but last night in Eltham Black, White, Asian and Europians stood together to defend the community they where either born into or joined. How do I knw because i was there. And i am a working profesional and not an idiot or a rasist!!!!! The media takes verious views and tells them in a way to get the most hype. The winner in all this is the media!

A lot of black people have condemned the behaviour of the black people who stole TV's , Clothes and burned properties just for the sake of it. Have you seen the clip on YouTube of the black lady who lives in Hackney? Click on the link to see her shaming the idiots .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYKKt2vCqLQ

One of the consequences of that lawless behaviour that was witnessed by the worlds media is that the black looters have given "ammunition" to organisations like The EDL,BNP and any other right wing organisation . Those black people are simple adding more fuel to the fire.
So before we berate the right wing organisations , the black people who are giving law abiding black people a bad name should be held into account.

Dont forget people of all communities are getting fed up with the high instances of criminality in the black community!

You really think black athletes care about us fools who go running around shooting each other? Why should they care? Why should our foolish community drag down all we have? What good would that do?

Stopid.

Go and read the blogs and see BBC, ITV, Sky news and Channel 4. The ratio of caucasian, europeans, asians, (excluding blacks) is greater % in the riots than blacks. But the racial fixation with capturing blacks only shows the UK will not change. See how they treated Darcus Howe during a BBC TV interview yesterday morning.

They psychically mug us, they rape our ancestors, our mothers, us mentally have tortured us for over 400 years even using the bible and religion; and endeavouring to strip us our morals and dignity.

Who are the rioters? Are they those who stole slaves, resources and their lands; placed indentured asians in Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda; Trinidad, St. Lucia, Guyana and Guadeloupe, smidgens in Grenada. All this done by the so-called British!

They have built Britain on psycho and physical slavery and colonialism-it is a fact!!!

But this time we have to be prepared for war. We must control our youth and destiny.

They say a siege of the cities, what about their siege of races and people under guise of civilising them

We Black men have to responsible and ready for the call of duty to support our women, children and youth. As this now a war!!!

They have killed over 10 million+ blacks in the triangular slave trade; and hitherto Duggan and Smiley Culture etc...the list goes on

We have to reclaim our youth nurtured, inspire them and ultimately leave these shores; and kicked the caucasians, asians (from East India) out of Africa and the Caribbean. As you will see that English Defence League, BNP, the Tory party and most whites want to kick us out of Britain and they ramp this up, to drive home this at football matches with season starting.

There is unerringly feeling that a racial war is brooding. See the English defence league activities in Eltham (the same area that they murdered Stephen Lawrence); the Clapham Junction brigade; and the Sikhs in Southall last night. To them the enemy are the blacks. It is all of pretence of 'sweeping and cleaning the streets of rioters.

This incitement was done yesterday by Cameron and Boris Johnson (who has already called black people picannies, watermelon smilers and nappy heads); and the weak hanging on their coat tails Ed Milliband.

Finally, this is a spiritual revolution go and listen to Bob Marley's Redemption song, Buffalo Soldier and War!!!

be quite hard to take part in the 2011 olympics

As it stands, the only people that have been killed or robbed during these riots have been Asian and white.

There was an appalling picture of a young black youth, holding a pair of trainers and t-shirt, stood in front of a near naked young white youth (stood in his briefs only) who he had been robbed for the clothes on his back. I don't suppose you've published this image anywhere yet? Of course THAT wasn't racially motivated.

The more we keep creating counter arguements out of nothing and denying what's wrong with our community, the longer we'll have to wait before we can get a foot-hold.

If these racist kill another black person: no respected or credible black athlete should take part in 2011 Olympics